Future Classic american cars?

Not sure if this is a joke or not, but I think any of these "retro" cars will not be classics.

edit: beaten by GMCsprint.

I disagree, the PT Cruiser more or less started the retro trend. It has some significance and didn't sell in huge numbers. The car itself doesn't need to be great to drive to become desirable.The PT Cruiser really was a styling milestone. Just look at the current range of passenger vehicles, they more or less all look the same.
 
I wish the restoration companies would decide '73-'77 A-bodies were classics so I could find some repro parts for my Sprint :p
 
I disagree, the PT Cruiser more or less started the retro trend. It has some significance and didn't sell in huge numbers. The car itself doesn't need to be great to drive to become desirable.The PT Cruiser really was a styling milestone. Just look at the current range of passenger vehicles, they more or less all look the same.

What? Those cars were commanding a premium because Chrysler couldn't keep up with production for the first 6-8months of production.

I still fail to see how a it'll become a classic when it itself is just a copy of classic Americana. The prowler MIGHT become one, but I question that one, as a lot of hot rodders/real car guys look down on it for having a v6. Many hot rod shows/cruises specifically state "no PT Cruisers."
 
What? Those cars were commanding a premium because Chrysler couldn't keep up with production for the first 6-8months of production.

I still fail to see how a it'll become a classic when it itself is just a copy of classic Americana. The prowler MIGHT become one, but I question that one, as a lot of hot rodders/real car guys look down on it for having a v6. Many hot rod shows/cruises specifically state "no PT Cruisers."

Ahh what I meant to say was that sales have fallen over the past few years. How often do you see PT Cruisers on the road today? They were launched back when I was in 5th grade and I remember that several of my teachers had one. Now I would say that they are almost a rare sight.
I think that if Chrysler killed the PT Cruiser now, in many years it will become moderately desirable. Though you are right, it probably won't get much credit from the performance car guys. It did launch the retro trend, as far as I can tell, and it didn't really look like anything else on the road when it came out. I think it was a very influential car, and people will recognize that.
 
Many hot rod shows/cruises specifically state "no PT Cruisers."
:? Really? I've never heard that before. Even if you, say, hypothetically bolted on a Corvette transaxle and chucked the wimpy motor for a 5.7l HEMI? It's one thing to keep the riffraff out in their hideously "customized" minivans, but if somebody actually has something cool then that's a different story.

Then again, that's what I'd love to do to the Prowler - because some numbskulls thought a hot rod has a V6 with "Autostick", I'd put a 6.1 in there with a 6-speed Hurst shifter, or something along those lines. I used to think the Prowler was the coolest car in the world and even though I now know how wimpy it is I still want one.

I think the turbo Cruisers and especially their convertible counterparts are going to command high numbers in the future - either as oddball hi-po versions of dreary cars like those from GM that I listed previously, or as campy cars that are making a comeback like Pintos and AMC Gremlins. Either way, I won't be surprised to see obscenely low-mileage ones at Barrett-Jackson in 50 years.
 
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I don't know if the PT Cruiser will ever be a really desirable classic. But I do see them becoming a classic in the same way that the original VW Beetles are classics. People will want them because of the image, but the prices will never be that high, even for cherry examples.
 
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Mustang SVO (already becoming collectible)
SVT Cobra Mustangs
The only collectible Panthers (Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, Town Car, Marauder) that will be collectible will be the harder to find versions.

HPP (handling and Performance package) cars for one
Town Car signature Touring (hot rod lincoln, 3.55 rear gears and dual exhaust)
The Marauders
Crown Vic LX Sports and the rarer Grand Marquis LSE's

GTO
Grand Prix GXP
Boniville
Mark VII & Mark VIII Lincolns
 
I don't see the "new" Pontiac GTO being a collectors item, they aren't exactly rare around the world. What is so special about it having a different grill.
 
I don't see the "new" Pontiac GTO being a collectors item, they aren't exactly rare around the world. What is so special about it having a different grill.

They didn't sell well. The Ford Mustang sold better then any car back in the day, and still hold the record, but it's the rebadged Mustang, the Mercury Cougar, that is worth more money.
 
:? Really? I've never heard that before. Even if you, say, hypothetically bolted on a Corvette transaxle and chucked the wimpy motor for a 5.7l HEMI? It's one thing to keep the riffraff out in their hideously "customized" minivans, but if somebody actually has something cool then that's a different story.

A lot of local papers will publish some kind of local clubs "saturday morning cruise" or something along those lines. After the PT cruise had been out for a while I remember a lot would flat out say "No PT cruisers" as they were all for classic (american) cars. I've seen it for one of the local St. Louis cruises when car show season rolls around.

Then again, that's what I'd love to do to the Prowler - because some numbskulls thought a hot rod has a V6 with "Autostick", I'd put a 6.1 in there with a 6-speed Hurst shifter, or something along those lines. I used to think the Prowler was the coolest car in the world and even though I now know how wimpy it is I still want one.

The V6 from a power stand point is really that bad, IIRC it has 250hp or there abouts, when it came out that wasn't to bad for many v8's. The sound of the v6 was what killed it for me more than anything, it wasn't loud nor aggressive.

Goto a hot rod show and a lot of cars are just a standard SBC with automatics, you'd be lucky to find one that even has a transbrake or a manual valve body. I love hot rods, but fuck am I bored with 'em anymore, it's part of what drew me to imports, different engines and performance ideas were being played with.

I think the turbo Cruisers and especially their convertible counterparts are going to command high numbers in the future - either as oddball hi-po versions of dreary cars like those from GM that I listed previously, or as campy cars that are making a comeback like Pintos and AMC Gremlins.

AMC Gremlin's are making a comeback? Pinto's made/make half-decent track cars, Ford just badly fucked up on the safety aspects of the car.

Either way, I won't be surprised to see obscenely low-mileage ones at Barrett-Jackson in 50 years.

And I will weep.

I don't see the "new" Pontiac GTO being a collectors item, they aren't exactly rare around the world. What is so special about it having a different grill.

I think it'll end up being a cult car. As it never took off well in the US, I think people will forget about it, a bit like the Omni GLHS.
 
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Ford Taurus and the Ford Taurus SHO

Now I know that many of you will agree on the SHO but will argue on buying a 86 Taurus as an investment. Well think about the 57 chevy there were tons of them they were not well liked at the time and ended up being passed from father to son. As years rolled by your fathers thought god my father had one of those, or gave me one of those, or I bought one of those for 20 dollars, IT WAS GREAT.

As the years roll on people my age will say my father owned one of those, Robocop had one of those, I got laid in one of those.

Watch for it
 
^-- Thats what i'm talking about!

You guys are all pulling out rare collectible sports cars, even common cars can be classics!


Also, this thread needs more pictures
 
*cough* I again point to my sig since no one here has apparently mentioned the last two generation Camaros/Firebirds/Trans-Ams. :mad:
 
AMC Gremlin's are making a comeback? Pinto's made/make half-decent track cars, Ford just badly fucked up on the safety aspects of the car.
Maybe "cult car" was the better phrase, but hey if it worked for Wayne, it'll work for you too. :cool:
And I will weep.

I already weep when I see overpriced dreck like puke-green '71 Chargers go for six figures at Barrett-Jackson. (Wish I had a link, but the Intertubes hate me.)
 
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Ford Taurus and the Ford Taurus SHO

Now I know that many of you will agree on the SHO but will argue on buying a 86 Taurus as an investment. Well think about the 57 chevy there were tons of them they were not well liked at the time and ended up being passed from father to son.

Where the hell did you come up with that load of bullshit? I'm sorry to be an ass about it but that is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. The Tri-five (55,56,57) Chevy's were IMMENSELY popular, and not because they were just cheap. They were a huge styling revolution, and were the cars that practically killed off all the small time manufacturers trying to get a jump on the big 3 after WW2.

If they weren't liked at the time, no one would have bought them. The Taurus sold not because it looked good, but because Ford actually asked the customer what they wanted in a car, and gave it to them. One of those things was not looks though, another was build quality. When a new car provides everything the old Taurus and decent/good looks, I don't see it happening. Beyond that, I can't think of anyone with any fond memories of a Taurus beyond perhaps "I'm amazed it survived my punishment." The '57 Chevy was far different.

I will admit the SHO will likely be one.

^-- Thats what i'm talking about!

You guys are all pulling out rare collectible sports cars, even common cars can be classics!

Partially because it wasn't much work to take any common old car and make it fast, hop up parts were made for most American engines, and even then engine swaps weren't hard and people back then could do things like weld. My generation and newer seem to think that if it ain't built by an engineer or sold by a shop as bolt on, then it's not possible.

The cars that will become classics are the enthusiasts cars. Look at what are now like; Muscle cars, '32 Ford, Tri-5 Chevy, Corvettes, 55-57 T-birds, Mustangs, Camaro's, the list goes on. Those are all cars enthusiasts took on and played with heavily. Few, if any, enthusiasts took to the 54 Oldsmobile's, they are just considered old (some will use the term classic only out of respect for the owner). That actually goes for most Oldsmobiles barring the 442's. Some are picking up on them only because they are relatively forgotten (read: cheap) and are smog exempt.

Using the above example, I would wager some Honda's will become classics in the future. CRX, Integra, Civic hatchbacks... those may bleed into the regular Civics as people who wanted to build one of the others up can't find one for a decent price decide that they'll make do with a 2 door coupe.

I already weep when I see overpriced dreck like puke-green '71 Chargers go for six figures at Barrett-Jackson. (Wish I had a link, but the Intertubes hate me.)

Ditto. Everytime I hear of a Dodge going for more than about $50k I think "Who the fuck would want to spend that much on a DODGE!"
 
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Two more I haven't seen mentioned are the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe and Thunderbird SC. The Merkur XR4Ti has potential as well.
 
I for one see the Chevrolet Astro being the next VW bus. I think this is one of the coolest cars around right now.

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I'd love to have one of these in 15 years :D
 
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